Model A Ford Club of Great Britain
Model A Ford Club of Great Britain

MODEL ‘A’&’B ENGINE/CHASSIS SERIAL NUMBERS.

All Model ‘A’ engine numbers were stamped on the left side of the cylinder block above the water inlet. 

The engine serial number is separate from the pre-fix letters, the number is followed by a star(*). The number is unique to each engine. In the USA Rouge Plant when  an engine was installed into a chassis the same number was  stamped on the left hand side rail just behind the fire wall where it is inevitably covered once the bodywork is added. At the Canadian plant they stopped stamping the chassis frame in May 1928 or thereabouts. We have no information as to whether chassis frames were stamped at the UK plants and neither do we know if chassis was stamped at foreign assembly plants such as those in Australia.

Pre-fix letter *A signifies a car, *AA signifies a truck; the inclusion of ‘F’ in a US produced engine indicates a 3288cc (aka 24 hp) engine for a RH drive vehicle. Engines assigned to Manchester, having an ‘F’ in the pre-fix, indicates a small bore (aka 14.9 hp) unit.

Originally the engine number was used as the identification number (aka chassis number aka VIN etc), this is what Ford intended in the 1930s. However over the years engines get changed and bureaucracy increases. Thus many vehicle licensing authoruities wanted a further identification number other than that just on the engine  and one that could beviewed easily. For instance many Model A Fords from Argentina  are allocated a chassis numbers starting with RPA followed by a 6-figure number. (RPA stands for Registro Nacional de la Propiedad del Automotor, which is the 'Argentina National Registry of Automobile Ownership.) Many VINs have been allocated to a vehicle when the original serial/VIN number is not known or lost or corrupted, for instnce when engine swap caused numbers mismatch between paperwork and car. Many states in the US also assigned such Motor Vehicle Department VINs during title transfers for vehicles which are legally owned, but have cloudy or conflicting chassis number / engine number / paperwork number history.

 

The following list shows when the engine was made... not when the car came off the production line.

 

In the listing engines exported mainly to South American countries are marked with *.

More detailed information on engine numbering can be found at www. fordgarage.com and www.plucks329s.org

First Number

To

Last number

Month/Year

1

137

Oct- 27

 

138

971

Nov- 27

 

972

5275

Dec-27

 

5276

17251

Jan-28

 

17252

36016

Feb-28

 

36017

67700

Mar-28

 

67701

109740

Apr-28

 

109741

158000

May-28

 

158001

160000

May-28

To Cork

160001

165726

May-28

 

165727

224276

Jun-28

 

224277

254000

Jul-28

 

254001

256000

Jul-28

To Cork

256001

295707

Jul-28

 

295708

384867

Aug-28

 

384868

419000

Sep-28

 

419001

422000

Sep-28

To Cork

422001

473012

Sep-28

 

473013

585696

Oct-28

 

585697

697829

Nov-28

 

697830

700000

Dec-28

 

700001

704000

Dec-28

To Manchester

704001

810122

Dec-28

 

810123

940000

Jan-29

 

940001*

950000*

Jan-29

 

950001

983136

Jan-29

 

983137

1127171

Feb-29

 

1127172

1298827

Mar-29

 

1298828

1478647

Apr-29

 

1478648

1663401

May-29

 

1663402

1800000

Jun-29

 

1800001*

1810000*

Jun-29              

 

1810001

1854831

Jun-29

 

1854832

2045422

Jul-29

 

2045423

2243920

Aug-29

 

2243921

2396932

Sep-29

 

2396933

2571781

Oct-29

 

2571782

>

2678140

Nov-29

 

2678141

2742695

Dec-29

 

2742696

2826649

Jan-30

 

2826650

2940776

Feb-30

 

2940777

2950000

Mar-30

 

2950001

2960000

Mar-30

To Manchester

2960001

3010000

Mar-30

 

3010001

3020000

Mar-30

To Manchester

3020001

3114465

Mar-30

 

3114466

3304703

Apr-30

 

3304704

3450000

May-30

 

3450001

3460000

May-30

To Manchester

3460001

3509306

May-30

 

3509307

3702547

Jun-30

 

3702548

3730000

Jul-30

 

3730001

3740000

Jul-30

To Manchester

3740001

3771362

Jul-30

 

3771363

3883888

Aug-30

 

3883889

3950000

Sep-30

 

3950001

3960000

Sep-30

To Manchester

3960001

4005973

Sep-30

 

4005974

4093995

Oct-30

 

4093996

4177733

Nov-30

 

4177734

4237500

Dec-30

 

4237501

4250000

Jan-31

 

4250001

4260000

Jan-31

To Manchester

4260001

4310300

Jan-31

 

4310301

4393627

Feb-31

 

4393628

4450000

Mar-31

 

4450001

4460000

Mar-31

To Manchester

4460001

4470000

Mar-31

 

4470001

4490000

Mar-31

To Manchester

4490001

4520831

Mar-31

 

4520832

4521600

Apr-31

 

4521601

4611921

Apr-31

 

4611922

4695999

May-31

 

4696000

4746730

Jun-31

 

4746731

4777282

Jul - 31

 

Nil

Nil

Aug-31

 

4777283

4780000

Sep-31

 

4780001

4800000

Sep-31

To Manchester

4800001

4803000

Sep-31

To Köln

4803001

4824809

Sep-31

 

4824810

4826746

Oct-31

 

4826747

4830806

Nov-31

 

Nil

Nil

Dec-31

 

4830807

4830900

Jan-32

 

4830901

4840900

Jan-32

To Dagenham

4840901

4842983

Jan-32

 

4842984

4843000

Feb-32

 

4843001

4844000

Feb-32

To Köln

4844001

4846691

Feb-32

 

4846692

4849340

Mar-32

 

4849341

4850000

Apr-32

 

4850001

4855000

Apr-32

To Dagenham

4855001

4855171

Apr-32

 

4855172

4856255

May-32

 

4856256

4856745

Jun-32

 

4856746

4857556

Jul-32

 

4857557

4857988

Aug -32

 

4857989

4858746

Sep-32

 

4858477

4858703

Oct-32

 

4858704

4858930

Nov-32

 

4858931

4858979

Dec-32

 

4858980

4859000

1933

 

4859001

4859800

Jul-32

To Köln

4859801

4859948

1933

 

4859949

4869509

1934

 

4860510

4860800

1935

 

4860801

4862800

Apr-35

 

4862801

4864800

Oct-35

to be verified

4864801

4865384

1935

 

4865501

4866500

Jun-35

To Köln

4865385

4867715

1936

 

 

CANADIAN MODEL ‘A’ ENGINES

Canadian produced engine numbers were also stamped on the left side of the cylinder block above the water inlet. The number is unique to each unit the number is followed by a star (*). They have a separate sequential listing starting at 1. The pre-fix starts with *CA.

Prefix

First Number

 

Last Number

Month/Year

C/CAA

1

479

Feb-28

C/CAA

480

3229

Mar-28

CA

3230

7172

Apr -28

CA

7173

13772

May-28

CA

13773

22563

Jun-28

CA

22564

32817

Jul-28

CA

32818

44610

Aug-28

CA

44611

53531

Sep-28

CA

53532

63174

Oct-28

CA

63175

71370

Nov-28

CA

71371

78127

Dec-28

CA

78128

89474

Jan-29

CA

89474

102209

Feb-29

CA/CAA

102210

115460

Mar-29

CA/CAA

115461

128690

Apr- 29

CA/CAA

128691

137105

May-29

CA/CAA

137106

141953

Jun-29

CA/CAA

141954

146518

Jul-29

CA/CAA

146519

150120

Aug-29

CAQ/CAAQ

1

10000

Nov-29

CAW/CAAW

1

10000

Feb-30

CAE/CAAE

1

10000

Mar-30

CAR/CAAR

1

10000

Apr-30

CAT/CAAT

1

10000

May-30

CAY/CAAY

1

10000

Jun-30

CAU/CAAU

1

10000

Aug-30

CAI/CAAI

1

10000

Oct-30

CAO/CAAO

1

10000

Feb-31

CAP/CAAP

1

10000

Apr 31

CAS/CAAS

1

10000

Jun-31

CAD/CAAD

1

10000

Feb-32

 

 

       
       

MODEL ‘B’ ENGINES

Model B engine numbers are sequentially numbered starting from 5,000,000. The numbers are unique to each unit and stamped on the top or the flywheel housing after they had passed final inspection and shop running.

The engine number became the vehicle/chassis number when installed in the chassis frame. The number is separate from the prefix letter. The number is followed by a * whilst the prefix is preceded by a *

Canadian built engine numbers were stamped on the flywheel housing above the starter.

British model ‘B’ engine numbers were also stamped on flywheel housing until Dec 1932, thereafter they were stamped on the left side of the cylinder block just above the water inlet.

First Number

To

Last Number

Month/Year

5000000

5000015

Nov-31

5000016

5001863

Dec-31

5001864

5013187

Jan-32

5013188

5032500

Feb-32

5032501

5049492

Mar-32

5049493

5062386

Apr-32

5062387

5064906

Apr-32

5064907

5087732

May-32

5087733

5132621

Jun-32

5132622

5144010

Jul-32

5144011

5146668

Aug-32

5146669

5157918

Sep-32

5157919

5165401

Oct-32

5165402

5175635

Nov-32

5175636

5179579

Dec-32

5179580

5187129

Jan-33

5187130

5192755

Feb-33

5192756

5203772

Mar-33

5203773

5208842

Apr-33

5208843

5216030

May-33

5216031

5227763

Jun-33

5227764

5234547

Jul-33

5234548

5241341

Aug-33

5241342

5245552

Sep-33

5245553

5248333

Oct-33

5248334

5249668

Nov-33

5249670

5263534

Dec-33

5263535

5267507

Jan-34

5267508

5275064

Feb-34

5275065

5277589

Mar-34

5277590

5385357

Apr-34

5285358

5287403

May-34

5287404

5288942

Jun-34

5288943

5290174

Jul-34

5290175

5292536

Aug-34

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